The First step for Islam reformation in America.

I had a previous appointment to meet Imam Shamsi Ali in the Islamic Cultural Center of New York. Our appointment was set for four in the afternoon. The driver of my taxi let me out at the corner of 3rd Ave and 96th street, where the Islamic Cultural center of New York is located. As soon as I disembarked from the taxi I recognized Imam Shamsi Ali. He was walking toward the mosque with a medium size Starbuck’s coffee in his hand. I walked faster and I taped on his shoulder. He immediately turned around and gave me a pleasant smile. We shook hands and he acknowledged that he was expecting me. We walked together toward the Islamic Cultural Center entrance and into a large courtyard. On the right was the Masjid “sanctuary” and on the left was a long corridor leading to the offices of the facility. He led me to his personal office. There we sat down and engaged in a very sincere discussion.

As soon as he sat behind his desk he said smiling,” You published our first discussion, I saw it”

Yes I did. I said “I hope you liked it”

With a soft smile on his face, he said, “Yes, it was good”.  I thanked him for his time and our second meeting. He continued, “You are always welcome and please call me Shamsi.  He immediately started the conversation with a verse from the Quran. “In the Quran, chapter 19, it explains that there will be a time when people from different places will come to Mecca by foot and lean camel. The interpretation of “Lean Camel” is not camel; it means other technological advancements incorporated into the life of Muslims.”  He took a deep breath and continued “We are now living in that different time; we are living in the technological era. The social issues, criminal laws and the penal codes must be different. Mainstream Muslims need reformation.”

When I asked him to clarify the mainstream Muslims, I noticed that he used the expression of Mainstream for Muslims the same way I have used Moderate Muslims. Mainstream or Moderate Muslims are the great majority of Muslims that are not fully practicing Islam and have some reservations. They are the ones that media refers to as the silent majority.

I was happy to hear that we shared the same viewpoints. He was talking my language. Imam Shamsi Ali strongly believed that Mainstreams Muslims in America must play a great role in the Muslim world, because, America’s social economy, prosperity and in particular the values for human dignity and equal opportunity are the fundamental bases in Islam.

We discussed and agreed that the seventh century barbaric laws “Shariah”,  have no place anywhere in the world in any society. Imam Shamsi Ali rightfully believes that the Iranian government’s action to forcefully impose that their women must wear the Hejab is not Islamic. He then commented on women in Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world. “They are free to choose their own way of dress”. His remarks reminded me of Iran during the Shah when there was no official dress code for women.

I asked him if he was going to write an article for me to publish on the Concerned American Citizens website. He said “I have written an article in the Indonesian language for a news paper. I will translate it into English and will give it to you in a few weeks”.

“Imam, I could not contain my excitement, must I wait that long?” He replied “You can draft it, send it to me and I will make changes if necessary.” He continued “I believe that it is the responsibility of the American Muslims to do something in order to change the Muslim world. Our article must open the eyes of the American Muslims”.

I followed my line of questioning with one of my biggest concerns. “What is your opinion, it appears that other Imams believe that Shariah Law is the word of Allah and has superiority to any man made laws, such as the United States Constitution.” He immediately said “There is no word of Shariah law in the Quran. Shariah law has been written by others during the centuries. The American constitution has been written based on American values. It is the law of the land in America, and must have the superiority to any other law.”

I told him about my friend Tawfik Hamid and his article about the scholars in Al Azhar University. The scholars have started to discuss 10 points in regard to Islam reformation, including separation between the Mosque and the State. He found the subject very interesting and I promised him to email him the full report.

We concluded our very constructive and friendly meeting by promising each other to be in contact and communicating with each other. My first task is to draft Islam’s reformation in America for his editing in order to publish it on our Concerned American Citizens website.

Imam Shamsi Ali and I were convinced that after publishing “Islam’s reformation in America” we will be able to conduct a seminar with many other Islamic authorizes in America.

This meeting with Imam Shamsi Ali, as an Islamic authority began the movement to separate Barbaric Shariah laws from spiritual Islam. Imam Shamsi Ali has the courage to clarify the difference between Mainstream Muslims who respect the United States Constitution and Radicals, extremists, fundamentalist Muslims who have created mistrust among all.

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9 responses to “The First step for Islam reformation in America.

  1. This is in response to your lies about Islam. I am a PROUD AMERICAN, born in Iraq. Lived under Islam Law, watched people die under Islam law, including members of my family. All because we were CHRISTIANS. Islam is the SEED of Satan and if you have the GUTS to meet me in public, (bring your imams too), I will share with you what your PEACEFUL religion stands for. DEATH, that is ALL you know

  2. I believe there is an opening for reform among mainstream muslims under the teachings of Imam Shamsi Ali. It is exciting and reminds me of Martin Luther!! I can’t wait to read “Islam’s Reformation in America”!

  3. “Spiritual Islam” is an invention of multiculturalism to separate Jizya (Koran 9:27), sex slaves (Koran 4:3), ransom (surah Muhammad), torture … from Islam. This “Spiritual Islam” has no organic meaning. What Mohammad has joined together, let no multiculturalist separate.

    Doctrine like “love your enemies” and “turn the other cheek” was rejected from Medinan Mohammad. Medinan Mohammad didn’t care for that moral code. Apparently that was the corrupting of Scriptures that Mohammad lamented. Instead Medinan Mohammad took Jizya, sex slaves, ransom, torture and offensive jihad. How can one justify reforming such “spiritual Islam”? Is Islam morally evil or is it not? Clearly Islam was retrograde even for the 7th century. Even the 7th century BC. Please. What is the point in rehabilitating evil? Shamsi’s implication is that Islam’s Medinan morals were suitable for the 7th century. That is worse than nonsense.

    The more multiculturalists try to rehabilitate what is fundamentally evil, the more Copts and other non-Muslims in majority Islamic countries suffer human rights abuses. I am sure this is not your intention, but the effect of your ministry is to continue the abuses of Islam on kafir around the world. It is also to disabuse morally Muslims. You are giving Muslims reason to believe that evil is good. This injures their most important redemptive path: moral clarity.

    The best way to redeem Muslims is to allow and encourage them to think morally. To end the death penalty for apostasy. Only then can the median (statistical term, not a misspelled adjectival reference to Medina) Muslim even begin to morally reason.

    Finally, why I have not seen the advertisements of CAIR, ISNA and MSA providing Shamsi with a keynote speech at a major conference?

  4. Oops. Jizya is Koran 9:29, not 9:27. Sura Mohammad is Koran chapter 47.

  5. “Spiritual Islam” is an invention of multiculturalism to separate Jizya (Koran 9:29), sex slaves (Koran 4:3), ransom (surah Muhammad, Koran 47), torture … from Islam. This “Spiritual Islam” has no organic meaning. What Mohammad has joined together, let no multiculturalist separate.

    Doctrine like “love your enemies” and “turn the other cheek” was rejected from Medinan Mohammad. Medinan Mohammad didn’t care for that moral code. Apparently that was the corrupting of Scriptures that Mohammad lamented. Instead Medinan Mohammad took Jizya, sex slaves, ransom, torture and offensive jihad. How can one justify reforming such “spiritual Islam”? Is Islam morally evil or is it not? Clearly Islam was retrograde even for the 7th century. Even the 7th century BC. Please. What is the point in rehabilitating evil? Shamsi’s implication is that Islam’s Medinan morals were suitable for the 7th century. That is worse than nonsense.

    The more multiculturalists try to rehabilitate what is fundamentally evil, the more Copts and other non-Muslims in majority Islamic countries suffer human rights abuses. I am sure this is not your intention, but the effect of your ministry is to continue the abuses of Islam on kafir around the world. It is also to disabuse morally Muslims. You are giving Muslims reason to believe that evil is good. This injures their most important redemptive path: moral clarity.

    The best way to redeem Muslims is to allow and encourage them to think morally. To end the death penalty for apostasy. Only then can the median (statistical term, not a misspelled adjectival reference to Medina) Muslim even begin to morally reason.

    Finally, why have I not seen the advertisements of CAIR, ISNA and MSA providing Shamsi with a keynote speech at a major conference?

  6. This is truly ground-breaking news. Imam Ali is a much-needed Muslim voice that has been missing far too long. I pray the article you are both working on will be published not only on the Concerned American Citizens website, but on Ali’s own website – and eventually on the websites of other “mainstream” Muslims. Again, Mano, thank you for your efforts. They are paying off!

  7. Oscar Murdock

    This is pay dirt, Mano. Like Zuhdi Jasser, and some others, this Imam will have others like him step forward and accept that Mosque and State must be separated, and Muslims must drop all the cruel beliefs and practices and the civic subversion of Sharia Law. The “mainstream Muslims” should also voluntarily start seeking their freedoms in line with the above.

  8. Dear Mano, Keep up your crusade and courage, and integrity.
    Brenda WRWF

  9. I had the ‘honor’ to meet this imam on 17 of June, 2011 I spoke with him of the necessity of Muslims to vote and asked him to peacefully mobilize his 1000+ plus congregation to peacefully oppose the siege of Gaza.

    I waited and listened with interest during until his ‘Islamic’ talk was completed. It sounded like it was probably scripted for him by some one in the paranoid members of the anti-terrorism task-force who monitors his sermons and whose law ‘enforcement’ peers attempt to harass anti-war activists and those such as myself, who oppose the collective punishment of civilians in the Gaza Siege – http://ProtestGazaSiege.blogspot.com

    The 30 minute speech that I heard was essentially, Jews are good people; they are people of G-d too (which we are, but you’ll NEVER HEAR an Orthodox Jew make a similar declaration in ANY SCHUL (synagogue) IN AMERICA. Then he said that historically Muslims who have ruled nations have permitted non Muslims in those countries to eat pork and to drink alcohol, and that people were free to become Muslims of even to remain idol worshipers. I find some of his historical statements to be HOG-WASH, if you will. It’s one thing to speak for a tolerant Islam but to speak historical lies in order to support his anti-Islamic agenda is a new low. Then he said, if your daughter or your son wants to become a Christian or a Jew, let them! Let them decide for themselves, which according to American values is perfectly O.K. If an Orthodox Jewish son or daughter converts to Christianity or Islam, they are in many cases considered DEAD, and are mourned and shunned.

    Anyway, after I spoke with the imam, my impression, based on his words, was that he would not encourage his followers to VOTE as I requested, which, by the way is an American civic duty (which many Americans who have given up hope on a bought-off system do not participate in), and neither will he encourage his members to even mildly speak up against the siege. He said that if was my responsibility to tell other Jews that the siege was wrong, (which I do), but that he would remain on the sidelines and do nothing. If Martin Luther King were this imam, Black Americans would still be going in the front door of the bus to pay their fare, then exiting the same door, walking to the back of the bus, entering the bus from the same back door, then sitting in the back of the bus, even if their were seats available in the “White Section.” Martin Luther King Jr. was not a PUPPET as this ‘imam’ IS and Martin Luther King Jr. was not a WORM (INVERTEBRATE) as this ‘imam’ appears TO BE.

    This imam according to the above article represents the “silent majority of Muslims” who do not follow all of Islam and who have doubts of Islam. Perhaps this imam should convert to Judaism or Christianity or to some other faith that he really believes in because he is not an imam; he is just a bad parody of one.

    p.s. to go to my website, you generally have to enter the web address from the top of your browser in the address bar, because the Mossad and their worm-like allies in the FBI-NYPD Joint ‘Terrorism’ Task-force, de-list my website with google every time I list it with them, because they have to try to silence opinions that they cannot rationally refute. Since the passage of the anti-patriot “Patriot Act” we do not have a constitution any more.

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